‘We atheists don’t claim anything except that the burden of proof is on you as you are making extraordinary claims.’
So, you can speak for ALL Atheists now.
You must be omnipresent to do that; huh..;)
Folks who name themselves Atheists are as diverse, more or less, than anyone else who names themselves Atheists, so, the ‘ONLY PERSON’ ‘you’ speak for here is ‘YOURSELF’, and some others, perhaps, in making that statement.
BUT YAH, “that’s” an ‘Autistic thingy'; to RIGIDLY ‘think’ that everyone frigging thinks the same or there is only one frigging definition of GOD; That’s ‘absurd'; truly it is in the MUCH BIGGER WORLD OF HUMANS.
And you know what; it’s not just an ‘Autistic thingy’ or an ‘Atheist thingy’, it’s also a ‘Conservative Christian thingy'; AND ‘Conservative Closed-Mind Thingy’, in general; as opposed to a more ‘Liberal Open-Mind Thingy;
YES, Fundamentalist Christians, Atheists, Introverted Autistics, Introverts in general, Conservative Republicans; have this closed minded thingy in common, in general, and of course as in ALL ‘OPEN MINDED STUFF’ EXCEPTIONS do apply. To attempt to put chains on human beings or GOD is typical of ‘closed-minded ways’ of human being.
It’s a general trait of human being, assessed as such, in the following TED video:
So there will most likely continue to be more ‘closed-minded oriented folks’ who are Conservative Republicans, Introverted Autistics, Fundamentalist Religious folks; Introverts in general, and yes Atheists too; and ‘us
open-minded oriented folks’ who are Liberal will just have to ‘scratch our heads’, and put up with ‘them'; until classic evolution changes this, which is entirely unlikely, as even in the animal Kingdom approximately 20% of animals are assessed as SITTERS INSTEAD OF ROVERS LIKE ME..;)
The world and GOD is a big place for ‘Super Rovers’ like me; and God makes ‘Super Sitters’ too, so I LOVE them Unconditionally too witH TOUGH Love of course..;)
‘Post all you want. I still won’t read it. I’ll ignore your drivel…’
That’s par for the ‘sitter’s course, friend. I speak to the reading audience and rarely expect ‘the inspiration’ to read or listen, in terms of ‘dark’.
I read everything as a ‘super rover'; but of course my Hyperlexic form of Autism in reading 10 to 15 times faster than the average human being, along with being able to interpret almost anything anyone says with ease, is part of my ‘Super Rover Autistic Power’, friend.
And my totally non-judgmental PERSONAL attitude towards all others, dark and light, makes me into what some folks, at least, name CREATIVE GENIUS; YES, links and quotes available on request, to PROVE THAT AS WELL.
You are easy to predict, for me at least; and trust me OR NOT; I predict much more complex stuff than you friend; but it is what it is in evolutionary terms and epigenetics, as well or NOT.
HAVE a great now.
It’s what I always do, as it’s easy for me to understand ALL OF WHAT’S GOING ON; AT least most of it; that really counts in flesh and blood LIFE.
And by the way, I do appreciate your new found ability to scroll past my words in comfort.
Kudos to that friend, and CHEERS!
HUMAN FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION..:)
NO, NOT me; I NEVER SAY AN ORGANISM IS JUST a pile of Atoms; keep your words to yourself haha! the ones you own and not ones I say, my friend, now;
As Carl Sagan says in ‘Symphony of Science;
The atoms are not the ‘cool thing’.
The cool thing is HOW THE
SYNERGY is REALITY of Fields; particles are just part of ‘these’ Waves that flow to
an ocean for now as is.
And all these words are a reflection of that, as above so below, rings true in all things humans do; the secrets of life are not secrets at all; they are in plain view for those with ‘eyes’ and ‘ears’ to see the patterns of reality from Galaxies; to the flow of words from a human who escapes a life of robot way; Yes, Sir; I too, work better as integrated than dis- organized pile of facts. Life is much more fun as living; than atoms of static in souls with no mind and body balance with hearts having little emotion and spirits that do not sing a song of life.
I find all insights outside of ‘the book boxes’ interesting.
Inside of the box, is well, just inside the box; nothing much new.
It will be the height of disrespect to put something as large and small as God inside a three letter word or book of box; it takes an interpreting mind to ‘see’ the common sense of that with larger ‘eyes and ears’, than the sensory organs alone; and just written text.
Thank you; I enjoyed all the out-of-the- box comments..:)
The species, Homo Sapiens, is actually too good at competing for resources; reproducing and using up resources to the detriment of other species to extinction for almost too many species to count; as well as the earth itself for the future of sustaining organic life.
Problem with that for a common known metaphor is, we need bees to live. So while we have big numbers; the culture humans produce is like a virus eating away at the living planet; and other species of life, living in balance helping us.
50% percent of the population is on
some kind of pain medication for chronic,
often stress related vague somatic pains.
Much of this is the result of a constant state of chronic stress, often rising to the level of fight or flight many times a day to the slow destruction of the bodily systems; as the body cannot efficiently burn off these stress chemicals, accumulating in the body without exercise to do it.
Many folks deal with this sitting still
most of the day and night long;
with Panic Attacks as an
eventual symptom of chronic stress too.
And close to one-third of school age children
are assessed with pre-type two diabetes;
that can be another risk for a shorter life in eventual potential.
And there is the human suffering of general depression and anxiety for a mind and body out of balance in expressing the type of imaginative and creative physical intelligence that allows the emotions to flow in the body instead of getting turned in to chronic tension associated with stress. As well as bio-feedback to use human relative free will to regulate emotions and integrate senses. Psychoptropic drugs, overall, are marginally better than just a placebo effect, if they work at all.
And yes, greater mind and body balance associated with physical intelligence increases executive functioning through greater focus and short term working memory; where even Standard IQ points are measured around 10 points higher after 1 hour of exercise, in associated studies.
The sixth sense assessed in research today is proprioception where the only way to gain this ability to feel one’s place of comfort in skin, muscles, tendons, ligaments, and bones in relationship to the external natural environment in mind and body balance, is impossible without the art of movement and increasing physical intelligence.
When humans sit still in ways of working or playing with electronic devices, the worst of ergonomic injuries can be caused by the static ways of sitting still that are still repetitive movement leading to injuries; that can eventually be functionally disabling to move efficiently in comfort, in everyday tasks of moving in one’s environment, in mind and body balance.
And then there is a culture; a patriarchal one; supporting gender roles of opposites. where a balance of feminine and masculine traits in ‘Yin and Yang’ balance, for both love and strength in defense and socially cooperating survival, are lost out of balance.
The newest movie, ‘Rise of the Planet of the Apes’, shows the folly of modern humans against a hypothetical ape that gains intelligence in standards of language; but retains a much more advanced physical intelligence; with instead of against the elements of nature; that modern humans cannot possibly step up to compete with; once smart moving ape goes toe to toe with smart human ape, who loses their grip on physical intelligence.
The good news is science shows that humans who live according to the art of forager movement for survival still have the same bone densities as our distant homo-sapien ancestors, tens of thousands of years ago.
The issue moreover is a kind of epigenetic negative devolution in just one lifetime. Classical evolution is slow with human beings; and the human apes of the past who are strong and live in balance with nature can still be the apes of ‘us’ who adequately challenge ourselves in the art of invisibility of movement in escaping predator and capturing prey without turning a sound of leaf on ground.
The reason I leg press 930 LBS slowly and surely 14 times with my arms raised and ‘perfectly’ balanced with machine is not because I walk loud and carry a big stick. It is because I learn to walk in ‘perfect’ balance moving in all directions with torso, hips, legs, arms, hands, feet, in the same golden spiral PHI ratio seen throughout nature as all true martial artists do at core of Kung FU philosophy, of a perfection of practice of living life instead of concrete ‘perfect’ goal.
Truly humans are evolved to be art. And through the development of alphabets, written complex language, complex cultural byproducts as tools of extension of human body; including cars, guns, and even bikes; we become machine-like in movement when we move at all; and what is lost is the most important of human intelligences for simply animal homeostasis and the enjoyment of life;
and that is most definitely physical intelligence that is both art and life for the only real heaven of now; that is free without the purchase of materialistic goods, or even clothes on an 18 degree day of snow; as I now never wear more than shorts on the coldest and snowiest of Winter Days; albeit in North Florida, it doesn’t snow much and 18 degrees is about as low as it goes..:)
Sure ‘we do it’ like rabbits; multiply and develop complex tools; but the price of that is the human suffering and misery I for one can easily see in both the non-verbal language from head to toe, as well as soul broke; heart broke; and spirit broke human beings in the aisles of Super Walmart; while I dance with the joy in ballet and martial arts of a ‘real life’ Ninja that is common place for our ancestors of ‘the rainforest’ in ‘invisible ways’ of living IN MOVEMENT.
And, sure life can be short without
the advantages of human sanitation
that saves more lives that medicine ever will;
but the FACT IS; for those who ‘remember’
what it fully means to be human; make the challenges; adapt to the challenges; CHANGE, and thrive in physical intelligence, emotional regulation, sensory integration, laser focus, and topnotch short term working memory in animal homeostasis; the best worlds of our ancestors and the amenities of modern culture can be enjoyed NOW; yes, NOW, like no other animal enjoys since the dawn of time on this EARTH.
It’s a choice. Just DO IT; OR do not. And it’s really not that hard, as a balance in a moving human body means a balance in mind AND BODY, including emotions, senses, focus, and short term working memory; all required to more fully enjoy now.
And truly these are all major factors associated with the more functionally disabling aspects of Autism; that are most definitely directly associated with deficits of emotional regulation, sensory integration, focus, and short term working memory, like a case-study of clinical autism spectrum disorder.
It should be no surprise to find the ‘canaries in the coal mine’ of this growing world-wide problem of overall deficits in physical intelligence on this very website, as great or greater than any meeting point, online anywhere in the world.
And truly what I assess of all the millions of words here,
I read and write; both leads me to the cure of my own functional disabilities associated with non-verbal language and reciprocal social communication; and validates my own personal research that Autism is an environmental causal factored deficit, moreover, as a result of culture, instead of innate genetics, alone.
And yes, research shows now that both
movement and art therapy is a growing successful way to treat Autism.
And the way I look at it now is; it’s just common sense. I followed blindly along with spoon fed mechanical cognition culture truly making me into a robot of a human being; having to go back and look within to all innate instinct and intuition to find THE ANSWERS AND my way back to even be a ‘full human’ again.
I am no longer a Canary in the Coal Mind of Culture.
I am a strong walking tall primate, who is just about as strong as a chimp; retaining all of the cultural advantages of tools as well, with the practice; everyday practice, of mind and body balance through greater and greater imaginative and creative physical ways of increasing Intelligence.
Try it; it might just work; it dam sure can’t harm anyone to MOVE in BALANCE; AND LIVE IN MIND AND BODY BALANCE.
I think the ‘purpose and meaning’ of the
‘whole thing’ is journey and never destination.
To know/FEEL now and live it as fully as one can, is to live.
One thing for sure all of us CAN feel/KNOW is now IS REAL..:)
And to live it with the gusto of HEAVEN IS NOW.
Imagine a world where children are raised in heaven NOW; instead of hell, in past and future.
I think it’s possible, in at least a ‘few cases'; now..:)
And ‘this dream’, is certainly not new..:)
I M A G I N E TRUTH..:)
AND MAKE DREAMS COME TRUE..:)
And let the naysayers do what they do in dark; as dark is part of light too..:)
I don’t think God plays games with humans.
But humans certainly do play games with God and other humans.
I get all my info. from GOD; God is here well before any book, human words; and now.
But your ideas are interesting; just not for me; I’ve already faced God face to FACE; in total separation; and truly that’s all I need to know about GOD that GOD IS ALL THAT IS; AND HELL IS JUST SEPARATION FROM THAT;
I AM TOTALLY CONNECTED TO GOD; therefore I live in the KINGDOM OF GOD; AND HEAVEN ALL THE TIME NOW; anything else; I for one; see as cultural illusion..:)
But to each his or her own; every path has its reasons and truth or Not; that is for each human to determine on their own; I already receive my answers directly from GOD; so human help or culture is not ANYTHING I REQUIRE NOW, AS MY FAITH IN GOD, IS 100 PERCENT face TO ‘FACE’..:)
Ana, I’ve lived in hell on earth before; both poor and with more money, than I can ever imagine using.
However; there is zero percent chance for me, to ever believe that heaven is ever anything but now, now.
It’s really simple logic AND FEELING, for me. Humans produce this cultural hell of illusions, overall.
There is peace in nature, and yes it is tough to survive; but never the less there is peace in living alive.
Truly some humans never find that from birth.
I cannot say it is fair.
But I for one; am nothing to judge God;
God is my ‘master'; and no matter what happens; my only choice is to play by God’s ‘rules';
I learn that lesson in ways that most folks will never fathom; at least in one life; but never the less; I learn that lesson thoroughly, in service to GOD; and for now I have the gift of heaven; if only the person left in the world to receive it; and truly I intuit I am far from the only one.
I will know if I ever meet them face to face; simply by the energy they emanate.
I do not find folks like that in real life
anymore; sadly enough; but they do exist in times before; even before i for one; get to the heaven they enjoy then; Smiles..:)
THERE ARE NO words that can adequately describe it; unless one fully lives there, in flesh and blood life; the way humans are simply evolved to live naturally..:)
I totally agree and heaven for me is a tough place of darkness too. And for me almost all the darkness in my life I find here as challenge but so far there is NO darkness that can defeat my gift of light; TG!.. With smiles..:)
The entire bible is nothing more than put together free verse poetry in unusual forms of parables and such.
And it is no more important than the video below in showing truth of the human condition.
OR ANY other creative work of art that accesses
our common creative consciousness as archetypes of human.
And yes; obviously it is a take off on how the ‘REAL SO-CALLED PEACEFUL easy Loving Jesus’ will be if he comes back to day, NOW; in a robe, long hair; beard; old underwear; keeping it all together in balance while most everyone else
Meh; the world can be a conspiracy but
‘THE DUDE’ IS REAL..;)
Smiles, and enjoy the ‘real Jesus’ video of modern bowling alley come TRUTH; that’s a real cool dude Jesus come TRUE..:)
AND truly there ain’t no reason NOT TO fully enjoy all there is to joy about life; FROM SEX TO DOING WHATEVER WILD THING ONE WILLS; as long as it is according to local, state, and federal laws; under the unconditional tough love of harming no one else, at least not intentionally..:)
Ah, silly humans make such a good life; so hard for no frigging reason, except TRIBAL DIVISION AND HATE.
THAT’S DISGUSTING; TRULY IT IS; BUT THE DUDE AND me ain’t gonna have nothing to do with that NEGATIVITY..;)
HA! The name of this forum is PPR; NOT science, mathematics, and technology.
While there is a philosophy of science that can be discussed;
Or a ‘Philosophy of Sports’, as that is actually a class offered in University; beyond the ‘nerd’ way of life; as a microcosm of the culture of human life. Yeah; I take the class in terms of developing my full humanity at school.
Eventually, after decades I look within, find all the answers innately instinctually and intuitively and now, not only am I fully human in mind and body balance, expanding my physical intelligence incredibly by view of other humans; they also name me legend of dance and hero of dance; and that’s a SUPER COOL COMPLIMENT BY OTHER folks in my own frigging species!
This is a specific thread named “LIFE; What is it?'”
Whether YOU like it or not; Metaphysics is part of Philosophy.
And Philosophy falls under the acronym of PPR..:)
And the discussion of metaphysics in a question posed as general as “LIFE; What is it?”, is just as RATIONAL, in terms of philosophy of metaphysics, as sticking to ‘two plus two’, in terms of science. And the woo of today as science shows time and time again; is often the science of tomorrow; science lags; as the tool of the scientific method is slow and clunky, at best.
Grow your mind friend, beyond science;
you just might like it, OR NOT.
And mind and body balance is most definitely a larger whole of THAT.
Some minds have great difficulty doing this, as Simon Baron Cohen, per science, does most definitely illustrate in ‘his, et al’, systemizing science about SYSTEMIZING MINDS.
ThERE are minds far beyond yours friend; and science proves that too..:)
And I’m sure there are minds beyond mine too; but ‘some folks’ say in someways, there are not; as far as they look, so far; but exploration is still an option; smiles; grins; and winks..;)
The bottom line is ‘you prove’ thEre is much more to philosophy than your words; THAT should be a given; but….
Truly it’s both fascinating and amusing to me, and predictable as well; that so many folks here attempt to discuss philosophy in terms of purely systemizing mind and actual study of science; there is MUCH MUCH MUCH more to both the human mind and “LIFE; what is it?”, than ‘school 101′; period.
Much greater minds than yours; including Carl Sagan under the influence of hallucinogens readily is humble enough to question the validity of all science, as that relates to the possibilities in the realm of ALL Science.
But ‘he’ has nothing to prove but truth; when alive of course.
An honest person; who is well versed in all aspects of life is not ashamed to admit when they just DO NOT KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS.
CARL SAGAN IS NOT JUST A SCIENTIST; HE EXPERIENCED IT ALL; WITH AN OPEN MIND; In terms of “LIFE; What is it?”
And yes; Carl Sagan is a big proponent of Marijuana to expand the creative ‘mind of Metaphysical Naturalism’ and even credits Weed, in his development of his artistic output for the Movie ‘Contact’.
I don’t need it; there are all natural ways to expand human consciousness; developed in ways of TAI CHI and other movement arts since before the dawn of civilization; when humans find the answers within; with all natural innate instinct and intuition; with ABSOLUTELY NO NEED FOR TEXTBOOKS OF SCHOOL.
‘LOOK’ WITH IN; AND ‘LOOK’ AT NATURE IS all the school ‘they’ need; and me too; as far as expanding mindful awareness in mind and body balance; In the larger realities of “LIFE; WHAT IS IT?”. In All the shades of grey and hues of color that ‘multi-universes’ of Human perceptions do most definitely come in; as slow ‘clunky scientific method’, does also show now.
Have a great now! It’s all you get, for NOW..:)
And truly in A ‘NUT SHELL’, OF a perception of a Universe, like me; THAT MY FRIEND, IS THE ULTIMATE MEANING OF LIFE; ‘JUST DO IT’, NOW. EVEN frigging shoe sellers get that FACT CORRECT, everyNOW in the philosophy of sports stores; come TRUTH, IN NIKE ways…
The Greeks included Sports as part of PHILOSOPHY; AND OMG, are they ahead of my time..:)
Yes, they are; but i and others; are here now, too with an ‘Iron Grip’
ON bigger TRUTHS.
OMG; this is narrow minded thinking friend; The statement that ‘how its put together is cool’, is just an assessment of the beauty of the reality of nature;
You are ‘hearing yourself barking’. That’s obvious by now, in your opinions worded here; that your mission in life is simply one of feeling something; anything; and mostly defiance over anything you see in life that does not mirror your own image of what it is; that is both confining and not too ‘smart’, in terms of potential full human intelligences.
I do not expect you to be able to ‘see’ that though; for more than obvious reasons. I suggest you read a little Carl Sagan, per above, and expand your mind, OR NOT; as always; that’s your will or prison friend…
And seriously; life with an open mind; can be both incredible in thinking, feeling, as well as flesh and blood action, when truly hitting the roads of “LIFE; What is It?”
It sure beats barking;
at least, for me..:)
Yes, I for one, understand what ‘you’ mean.
‘Where did the ingredients for
life actually originate’.
It depends on who one asks.
Some years, Stephen Hawking credits
GOD and some years he credits nothing.
Einstein, back in ‘the day’ credits EVERYTHING, like Spinoza does too..:)
For now, some scientists suggest the answer is nothing.
For me that’s like raising one’s arms up in the air and just giving up; or the height of material reductionism to the point of
Who knows what the next theory will be:
The best answer according to science IS:
The answer varies in distance and space in the ‘wheel chairs’ of so-called scientific BRILLIANCE.
I FOR one am not impressed with NOTHING.
THAT’S; OMG, LOONY!
Dinosaurs would giggle if they are alive and can Giggle; that’s loony; but at least its worth a LAUGH..;)
SCIENCE can be LOONY; AS the scientific method alone is just a tool, with NO BRAIN.
Hmm; speaking of tools..;)
I personally always see science as a mindless tool, in terms of the scientific method, from the time I am a research associate in Archeology at the University level; A human being out in nature, digging, digging all day long with the already knowledge; that yes, with enough work; one will find bone fragments, charcoal, pottery shards, and other artifacts of human subsistence. And then there is the tedious menial lab work of hours upon hours of mechanical cognition in weighing, bagging, and labeling subsistence stuff, hour upon hour, of true human insanity.
The problem is the solution is already known. American Indians live in the area in various places; but we wanna find out precisely where they live. Oh God; ‘what fresh hell is that'; but hell of already knowing the issue without having to know all the dirty details from sand to charcoal to bone and what nots to survive.
This is the problem with science; oh GOD it is so slow and boring; now don’t get me wrong; I’m happy that folks sacrifice their much fuller humanity to spend decades of tedious mechanical cognition ways of restricted being to bring the comforts of life to me, in greater and greater cultural amenities; but seriously,
STUFF IS NOT THE STUFF
that leads to
continual human joy in living.
All that REAL stuff, is internal stuff,
with the connecting environment of nature;
including humans, YES, other flesh and blood
HUMANS; AND THE REST OF FRIGGING NATURE,
as humans are simply and complexly evolved to live.
The problem is when humans become
the extensions of their tools;
and this is a common illness of cultural induced true insanity.
I cannot convince my wife that she is an animal; I mean seriously, she will not even entertain the idea. That is beyond sad; but truly it is the result of her fundie religious upbringing that puts humans above the rest of animal nature.
But the problem is; that fundie science beliefs
and ways of life are no less deleterious to a full life of living in joy as a human being.
Even science shows now; that a life spent in mechanical leaning cognition activities only (i.e. systemizing science mind) represses the empathic, creative, artistic connecting to other flesh and blood humans in social cognition in the physical intelligence of living life in joy.
That’s a serious problem of our modern cultures where humans become the tools of mechanical cognition (i.e. robot humans) instead of full humanity in mind and body balance able to reason the failures of the past into the successes of the future; but most importantly, to feel and connect as part of the interconnecting interdependent relationship of all of nature that truly is the REAL FORCE OF EXISTENTIAL INTELLIGENCE that does exist.
Science is just a tool. To become a tool, is well, not so WELL; just to become a tool.
There is a danger in that of real human misery and suffering. And even science understands now that a deficits in physical intelligence in ways of regulating emotions, integrating senses; and increasing cognitive executive functioning through greater focus and short term memory, is a causal factor for at least some forms of what is described as the abstract construct of Autism Spectrum Disorder; as constructed by members of the American Psychological Association, who truly only assess the behavioral deficits as such, rather than any innate potential causal factors.
Problem though is it is considered politically incorrect now to suggest that parental coldness in nurturing is a causal factor too; when scientists determine there are genetic causes too, like fragile X syndrome; WELL guess what; now science shows that the so-called ‘Re- frigerator Mother Theory of Autism has at least some causal factoring effect too, as children who are not properly nurtured in terms of touchy feely parental or other surrogate nurturing during the first two years of life do not develop the wiring to feel love in terms of oxytocin ways of bonding, as reward of social cooperation with other human beings.
These are common sense things that the political correct ethics of science has fallen behind on; that is easily visible to any social worker; working with cold hearted parental families with their faces stuck in work and play electronic devices; while empty armed children do not get enough hugs to live as human connecting individuals to the rest of other humans; in the number ONE scientific assessed factor of human happiness; that is the flesh and blood connection to other human beings.
And then there is the issue of recess and physical education; dropping by the way-side of much more importance placed on spoon-fed; sit your butt still and quiet; in class DOMINATION OVER potential freedom of human mind and body balance; taken away by THE TRUE INSANITY OF STUPIDITY OF science ways of systemizing thinking human beings making an entire generation, the metaphor of the Zombie Apocalypse come true;
And science itself mirrors back the errors of ways of cultural insanity in systemizing ways of living in a head; instead of much greater physical intelligence, per social cognition, as studies of college age adults show empirical measures of empathy dropping as much as 30 percent, in just several decades toward the RISE of the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE, COME TRUE TO NOW.
GOD IS THE INTERCONNECTING RELATIONSHIP OF ALL STUFF SEEN AND UNSEEN, KNOWN AND UNKNOWN, FELT AND NOT FELT; And truly the biggest of problems today; limiting feeling this interconnected relationship of all things, starting with human social cognition that is also directly related to feeling empathy with the rest of nature; not just human nature; human beings have oxytocin receptors in the bottom of their feet; not just to connect to mom and dad; but as naturally evolved by the GOD of Nature to connect to the soil of earth that supports all life on this planet as is, NOW.
Truly perhaps, one of the saddest things of all of life, is adult feet rarely touch the sand barefoot; and the skin of the entire body rarely touches the face of the sun in warmth and natural nourishment in greater potential strength through beneficial neurohormones and neuro-chemicals. People hide in the shades of fear of skin cancer; people wear shoes in the fear of sand worms; and people lather themselves up with anti-bacterial soap in the fear of germs; and folks wonder why they are too weak to even feel good in the world they live in, with emptiness.
The answer is clear. God is nature. There are laws of this God of nature that apply to humans without intentional prejudice; and to GO AGAINST THIS GOD OF NATURE PER THE FORCES AND LAWS OF THE INTERCONNECTING RELATIONSHIP THAT IS PRECISELY THIS GOD OF NATURE IS The main cause of human suffering and misery through the chronic stress of living against nature and human nature; instead of living with the God of nature in harmony of nature manifest in human being.
Meanwhile, scientists spend their life proving life comes from nothing and in doing so, more or less, they become nothing in greater innate instinctual and intuitive POTENTIAL REAL HUMAN NATURE IN SIMPLE BLISS AND JOY; not unlike a cat rolling around in the sand of a noon day sun; or hugging the grass in the light of a full moon night.
LIFE IS POETRY, DANCE AND SONG; TRULY ART. SCIENCE IS SCIENCE IS SCIENCE AND done to the exclusion of life is well; unwell; just plain REAL FLESH AND BLOOD LIFE INSANITY.
But it takes nurturing parents; a village of caring people; and a life spent connecting to other flesh and blood humans barefoot on sand and naked free under the Sun of God; to have any frigging clue; what I am even speaking of here;
In fact, science suggests that there is NO THERAPY THAT will work for a child not properly nurtured in touchY feelY love the first two years of life.
But don’t tell parents with their nose stuck in their electronic devices that the ‘Refrigerator Mother Theory’ is A REAL DEAL; AND PERHAPS, the worst thing that can happen to any human being anywhere in terms of A GREAT SUCCESSFUL LIFE OR MISERY AND SUFFERING LIFELONG; in ways of bullying other folks; addiction of all kinds; and just plain human hell come truth;
WheRe the chalice of potential love of human being is empty, and never ‘FEELED’ enough to suffice continuous joy in living life and connecting to other flesh and blood humans and THE REST OF NATURE AKA GOD.
Believe it or not; it’s truth; tough love truth; but never the less, truth; and worth changing for greater human potential of simple joys of life if; at all possible…
Take it with a grain of sand if one likes; but that may be just what one’s feet are starving for; in terms of loving Nature as all of GOD.
American Indians rarely doubt this truth; and neither does the same blood of the Sioux dancers and Cherokee artists who live in my ancestral BLOOD
Just providing a definition has NOTHING TO DO with true;
Nor agreement on the what the definer says.
I personally believe that Aleister Crowley is a creative genius; and that is what the best of minds do analyze his intelligence for at the time of his amazing expansive talent.
But he also tortures small animals as a child that is reflective in his so-called prophecies that compassion is not a desired human trait. All humans are defined by their experiences.
And Aleister Crowley like all humans are FALLIBLE. BUT; IN some ways Mr. Crowley is ahead of his time, in general ideas, like his idea of ‘Sex Magic'; IN ‘Hegelian terms’ he goes WAY OVER THE TOP WITH DRUGS AND some pretty gross out of the box stuff, in terms of human sensuality.
However, even science shows now that LUST is a prime motivator of both human creativity and productivity.
Back in Crowley’s day; folks are covered up in ‘Queen Victorian’ ways; and sex is a dirty dirty NASTY thing in terms of LUST; Today, in terms of science, we humans can credit the commercialism of T and A; with both, at least some of the creativity and productivity, of the working class of the USA; as well as the folks at the top, like politicians, in terms of BILL CLINTON AND STAINED DRESSES. WHATEVER IT TAKES IS WHAT THE CHILDREN OF THE ‘REAL’ GOD DO; AND more times than not in terms of human that is in terms of LUST; LIBIDO; SO FORTH AND SO ON, FOR TOTAL SURVIVAL.
Pioneers of truth come in all sizes, shapes, and even psychopathic genius creative minds.
Crowley is more than fallible; but never the less, fascinating as a human mind WAY WAY OUT OF the systemizing prison of ‘normal’ science.
Science is governed by ethics; And in the day of Crowley; sex is taboo in terms of scientific exploration;
Sometimes it takes an out of the box person; to move life FORWARD.
AND IN Crowley’s day he is just the man to do it; and do not underestimate the strength of his influence; sex is a powerful motivator; and there are many folks in Hollywood who learn from this man’s ideas; and incorporate it into musical genius; continuing in pop culture; starting with ‘the Beatles’, who did dedicate one of the most famous Albums in the world named ‘Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club band’ on the 20th year anniversary of Aleister Crowley’s death; they go by Crowley’s Book of Law, and most definitely helped Crowley from the grave to CHANGE THE WORLD; AT LEAST IN THE 60’S, IN WAYS OF FREE LOVE AND PEACE.
IT’S highly unlikely that anyone in this forum will ever rise to that ‘occasion’ but its possible.
Crowley is the dude in the top row with the ‘menacing bald head’ on the album cover, in the video provided below named ‘A Day in the LIFE’
Uncle Fester, in ‘the Adam’s Family’ is also imaged after him; as well as Lord Valdemort in the ‘Harry Potter Series’. The influence of Crowley is all over pop-culture; but most people have no idea of the extent of his influence, as its all mired in occult secrecy; which is silly in my opinion; as it all boils down to the power of lust is real and all natural stuff.
Let’s take the woo out of it AND JUST GET REAL, IS WHAT I SAY AND ‘DO AS I WILT UNDER THE POWER OF TOUGH UNCONDITIONAL LOVE'; AND both so-called historical Jesus, and REAL MR. CROWLEY; BOTH promote that General Golden Rule, as the only law of humankind that is truly INNATE.
But again, the ‘The Book of the Law’ thingy is tainted with Crowley’s natural psychopathic leanings that comes as a result of a cold hearted mother who is the one who names him as the devil incarnate; instead of child.
Ah, the darkness most always has a silver lining somewhere.
And to keep an open mind is the GREATEST OF ALL HUMAN ACHIEVEMENT;
IN human cultures designed to keep humans orderly and controlled as a system rather than ART of HUMAN BEING. I’LL GO WITH ART; SCIENCE IS A WELL KNOWN PRISON governed by ‘lesser closed minds'; as history shows time and time again; And to be clear, in terms, of science here; I am talking in general, about systemizing only closed-minded ways of thinking out of mind and body balance.
That IS the trap I escape in life; for AMAZING RESULTS I DOCUMENT ALREADY HERE, TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
Crowley, is just one of literally thousands of resources I use, with a totally open mind to do JUST THAT. AN OPEN MIND is most definitely the only path to TRUE CREATIVE GENIUS.
I’m not saying I am a creative genius; but yes, other minds do assess me as such, as well; even some naysayers on this site; available on request, by link; and quote, as well.
I rarely forget, anything, associated with visual text.
That’s just one of many; of my ‘Autistic Super Powers’ Ha! hE!
Well, actually I haven’t been posting in any threads specific to evolution or homosexuality, in the last couple of days; although these topics do arise in general threads about what is life and what is GOD; that are certainly still esoteric in nature.
I’ll just stick with Inventor, Tech, Grebel, and Ana from now on. I understand your concerns; this really isn’t the place for open minded philosophical discussion; and truly poetic expression has been used to discuss philosophy for thousands of years.
That’s nothing new; and appropriate in the FREE discussion of philosophy.
But never the less, I understand your difference of opinion and clearly understand why some other folks do not understand it. I think it is silly for anyone’s freedom of expression to be limited; and I do that more than most, of course, in terms of freedom of expression.
This Internet site will never truly be a place for folks who are neuro-typically different, as long as extreme differences in communication are quickly squashed.
The insistence on neuro-sameness
has always been the rule here.
And that truly is the nature of the
‘form of autism’ that bears its ‘superiority’ here.
Alex made this place to support neuro-differences; but it takes open-minded folks to have any possibility for that to happen; And that’s okay; it would take paid moderators to put up with the complaints that will naturally occur with folks who cannot stand change.
Anyway, I don’t see your request as unreasonable. I think it is sad that full freedom of expression in eccentricities cannot be allowed here as long as no one is intentionally harming anyone; but that’s the price of a free website; to cooperate with community and moderator rules; and I’m dam sure not going to attempt to try to start a better one that this. Smiles.
No problem; I’ll stick with the other ‘crazies’…;)
Seriously, I’ve been spending too much time here, anyway.
You are probably doing me a favor, by restricting what I do here..;)